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u/newnemo
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Poll: most don’t trust Supreme Court to decide reproductive health cases
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4021997-poll-most-dont-trust-supreme-court-to-decide-reproductive-health-cases/2.9k
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You mean the Supreme Court that stopped a recount and appointed a president, decided bribery is “free speech,” neutered Obamacare, gutted the voting rights act, is about to kill student loan forgiveness (but was totally cool with every other giveaway to corporations and foreign governments), whose “nOnPaRtIsAn” members vote along party lines on every meaningful issue, even overruling the two elected branches, and who have been shown to accept bribes without consequence because they’re appointed for life? Why wouldn’t somebody trust them?
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u/The_Frostweaver 1d ago
They had the opportunity to uphold roe v wade, or even come up with a reasonable new standard since they are such brilliant legal minds.
Instead they killed reproductive rights and punted it to the state courts to decide.
If an employee made an indefensible decision that damaged the company and then punted his responsibilities on the issue to a subordinate there would be hell to pay!
Distrust doesn't even begin to cover it.
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u/Oakleaf212 1d ago
You mean the same supreme courts whose recent members were all recorded to agree with roe v wade when questioned but still voted against it.
I trust nothing of current Supreme Court. I wish these fucks would finally remove the life time appointment as they clearly don’t give a fuck about being neutral.
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u/Key-Lime-8851 1d ago
Even the liberal members of the court voted against all accountability recently. The whole institution is rotten to the core
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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago
Making SCOTUS effectively a Senate committee would be even worse than what we have now. Thomas needs to go to jail. That's the proper response to corruption.
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u/Key-Lime-8851 1d ago
I agree he needs to be in jail, but thats a fantasy. The system is irreparably broken. Even putting meager enforcement mechanisms to the lackluster code the court is supposedly already following gets blocked.
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u/MissTetraHyde 1d ago
No they didn't. The agreed to follow the existing ethics guidelines and Chief Justice Roberts sneakily attached that to a letter that they did not all approve or agree to.
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u/thuktun California 1d ago
Even the liberal members of the court voted against all accountability recently.
This gets said a lot, but each time I've seen justification for this it was the Statement on Ethics Principles and Practices that the SCOTUS currently follows.
Do you have evidence of actual opposition to something, rather than just agreeing to a current code of conduct?
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u/SirGravesGhastly 1d ago
I've just found a podcast called 5 to 4that investigates the nonstop fuckery of SCOTUS, going back forever.
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u/WarWorld Colorado 1d ago
current Supreme Court
The problems go back so far I can't be sure we can trust anything they've done.
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u/tyboxer87 1d ago
They didn't just kill reproductive rights, they also put a ton of other freedoms on the chopping block with how they overruled Roe V. Wade.
They were so determined to overturn a 50 year precedent the didn't even care if they stripped Americans of tons of other freedoms.
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u/thuktun California 1d ago
They've also set a precedent for overruling previous SCOTUS decisions. Stare decisis is in ruins.
This means that a proper SCOTUS can fix things later on.
Though it also means there's zero stability in government. Everything changes every single time we change the ruling party.
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u/ds1106 1d ago
I'd say the opposite -- their ruling signaled the majority's alacrity for stripping those other freedoms if/as relevant court cases make their way to SCOTUS.
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u/breesidhe 1d ago
Not “signaled”. They outright declared it.
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u/mindspork Virginia 1d ago
I mean hasn't Thomas said on record that Obergfell and Griswold are on his list?
Bastard would vote to overturn Loving just as long as it's only 'from here forward'.
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u/jhpianist Arizona 1d ago
Bastard would vote to overturn Loving just as long as it’s only ‘from here forward’.
He’d find a way to exclude himself for sure. Afterall, the conservative mantra is “I got mine—screw you!”
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u/whoshereforthemoney 1d ago
They killed reproductive right by citing A FUCKING LAWYER WHO PRESIDED OVER LITERAL WITCH TRIALS AND BURNED WITCHES, LITERALLY.
If this were a fuckin book, no publisher would accept such blatant, hamfisted symbolism.
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u/Conchobar_the_nude 1d ago
The two big Conservative Supreme Court milestones (Heller and Dobbs), both rely on English Common Law that's so antiquated that they might as well just be using cave paintings to support their opinions.
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u/-XanderCrews- 1d ago
I’d like to point out that 4 out of 5 that voted to repeal roe all claimed in their hearings that it was settled law and wouldn’t overturn it.
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u/Doodledoood 1d ago
Republicans and Christianity - synonymous with Hatred and Hypocrisy. And now SCOTUS. We are so fuked. All because of one one giant narcissistic criminal and all the idiots who voted for him.
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u/millijuna 1d ago
One? I can think of at least two. First, there was Moscow Mitch who refused to let a black man appoint a judge for at least two years, then rapidly appointed these treasonous bastards in a lane duck session. Then there was the previous occupant of the White House, but really I’m 90% confident he was a tool for others.
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u/Black_Magic_M-66 1d ago
have been shown to accept bribes
In his defense, he said the form was confusing when it asked if his wife had received any income. What do you think he is, a lawyer? /s
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 1d ago
The Supreme Court of the United States is a completely corrupt entity with no integrity.
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u/Bill_Brasky_SOB Ohio 1d ago
And just yesterday gutted environmental protections because … because? … well I guess Clarence wants to go on another free vacation.
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u/BackAlleySurgeon 1d ago
whose “nOnPaRtIsAn” members vote along party lines on every meaningful issue,
This is the big thing right here. Republicans ran on overturning Roe. Theyve run on "gun rights." They run on ensuring voting restrictions stay in place. They run on expanding the role of religion in society. These are things that can't really be purely controlled by the legislature. So... How are they able to advance their objectives in these matters? Through the courts.
And the court they've chosen unfailingly supports these things and then says they behaved without partisan bias. Okay. Then why were you chosen? Even if every member is behaving "objectively," the court itself is not.
And to be clear, this is not how Democrats behave. Yes, there were some people calling for the court to be expanded. That was not adopted in the party platform. That was not endorsed by Biden when he ran. It's not even that popular among the Democratic populace. No Democrat has run on overturning Heller. No Democrat ran on overturning Citizens United or Rucho v. Common cause. Democrats run on genuine legislative objectives. Republicans don't. They run on judicial objectives.
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u/YouandWhoseArmy 1d ago
We are living through another lochner era.
We have been for some time.
Really appreciate you mentioning the successful coup executed by the supreme court and the state of Florida.
People don’t understand trump was amateur hour and that we already lost.
Remind me what or the bush era has been rolled back?
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u/FriesWithThat Washington 1d ago
Yeah, that one. The fix is in and it's blatant gas lighting to expect reasonable people not to see it laid out exactly like that right in front of us.
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u/DolphinsBreath 1d ago edited 1d ago
Don’t forget Merrick Garland. This entire bed was made by political machinations.
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u/DriftlessDairy
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What? You're telling me Americans don't want a bunch of old Catholic men deciding reproductive health care?
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u/TranquilSeaOtter 1d ago
Catholic woman*
Can't forget that Amy Coney Barrett is a staunch Catholic.
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u/Undec1dedVoter 1d ago
Given her religious beliefs is she allowed independent thought from her husband?
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u/BeKind_I_am_Ur_Taint 1d ago
Well she's clearly allowed to read, so I wonder what else they've allowed to slip past their moral views. That line always seems to move.
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u/colonelnebulous 1d ago
A pathetic joke propped up by money
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u/GandizzleTheGrizzle 1d ago •
So this is what it feels like to be living in a falling empire.
It's not great.
It really is not all that great.
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u/colonelnebulous 1d ago
Such squandered potential. The US could situate itself as a true global Leader with all the resources we have, but we just let our infastructure rot while appeasing a minority of wealthy interests.
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u/Glebeserker 1d ago
hey I was saying the same thing about Russia for years as well. So different, but so same
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u/GiraffesAndGin 1d ago
Funnily enough, almost 15 years ago I wrote a mini-thesis on the co-existence of American democracy (or republic) and a free market economy. Basically, my question was whether or not a democracy and free market could co-exist in the same system without fundamentally altering the other. And the conclusion I came to was that they couldn't due to one big issue: political legitimacy.
I figured one of two things had to happen:
1) The government would have to heavily regulate the market and make policies favoring middle class America, therefore weakening the capitalist agenda and losing legitimacy amongst the wealthy.
2) The government deregulates the market to play into the capitalist agenda, losing legitimacy across all branches amongst the middle class, the majority of the electorate.
Either way, it's a bad time for the government when you have an extremely small ruling class and an extremely large lower class.
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u/sean0883 1d ago
Have we ever seen her read? Even her notepad during the confirmation was completely blank, and at least one Republican thought that was a badge of honor.
It's not impossible she's not allowed to read or write.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm-bkAsRa6w
(I'm just making a bit of a joke conspiracy. I'm sure she's allowed to read and write.)
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u/suicidalpenguin99 1d ago
She's a "special" one thats allowed to have some power as long as she uses it to kill and enslave other women
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u/dla3253 California 1d ago
The extreme version of "I'm not like other girls".
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u/itemNineExists Washington 1d ago
She's the Clarence Thomas of females. "See? We can't be sexist! We like this one woman!"
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u/cissabm 1d ago edited 1d ago
No. She is definitely not. SO, the original comment about old Catholic men is technically true.
My daughter is better qualified to be on the SCOTUS than wannabe Barrett. Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh and Barrett are the worst SCOTUS justices the US has ever had, and that took a lot of effort.
EDIT: Rightfully, I need to add John Roberts to this list. I had regarded him as being spineless as opposed to a greedy POS, but recent revelations about his wife grifting for him have settled that matter.
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u/Classico42 1d ago
Kavanaugh
I don't mean to single out any one of the ones you mentioned, they're all terrible people, but fuck this guy and the people who let him through. Matt Damon should be on the SCOTUS.
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u/jacobtfromtwilight 1d ago
the old men who receive bribes regularly from the people bringing the challenging cases before the courts?
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u/GhettoChemist 1d ago
Or the old white billionaires telling them how to vote?
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u/DumpyBloom 1d ago
They said it’s not corruption it just appears that way
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u/I_want_to_believe69 South Carolina 1d ago
We call it sparkling lobbying in America.
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u/Ohrwurm89 1d ago
What? You're telling me Americans don't want a bunch of
old Catholic menreligious extremists akin to ISIS deciding reproductive health care?FTFY
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u/Glibbins 1d ago
The day when America stops being a gerontocracy is the day we can finally progress forward.
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u/sodalimefizz 1d ago
I doubt it, look at DeSantis. He’s only 44.
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u/DefaultSubSandwich 1d ago
TIL DeSantis might be a recurring villain for the rest of my life.
Fuck.
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u/Maximum_Future_5241 America 1d ago
It's not the Catholicism, it's the forcing of their God into people's lives.
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u/JustaRandomOldGuy 1d ago
It's people terrified of their imaginary friend and they want you to be terrified of him too.
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u/nixvex 1d ago
The true believers are traumatized. Especially those indoctrinated from birth. Their ‘imaginary friend’ is the purest example of an abusive father.
He gave them life and says he offers “unconditional” love to all his children. Except none of them are worthy of that love unless they live their lives for him and him alone. Even then they are still just born sinners and can’t please father by trying their best. They have to ask His other kid, the only good and pure one, to be the connection to dear father for them.
He gave humanity the world and free will but if you don’t do as He commands he will punish you. Disown you. Condemn you to suffering for eternity. All because he demands love and obedience at the expense of that free will he gave his children.
His love is selfish and conditional. His narcissism tolerates nothing less than blind devotion. He doesn’t WANT to punish his children for disobeying him, but he will. “Why do you force me to hurt you?! I only do it because I love you and I know what’s best for you! And what’s best is serving me.”
Jealous, angry, vengeful, dishonest, selfish, controlling, violent, and beyond reproach. These are the traits of the god of Abraham. They do love/fear him.
And they want to be just like him. The abused have become the abusers.
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u/JustaRandomOldGuy 1d ago
My sister is hard core Evangelical. Her kids were raised in that bubble. Home schooled, only play with kids from church, and Bob Jones University. They are in their 20s now and one is starting to question the church after finally seeing the real world. It means leaving behind the only world he has ever known.
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u/nixvex 1d ago
Yep. I was raised in it myself. It’s not easy to get out and away even when you know in heart and mind it isn’t truth. I blew up my life and near all my relationships when I renounced in my twenties. It sucked in ways I don’t wish on anyone. Almost fifty now and I’m glad I made the choice I did. I have no love for religion but I know all too well how insidiously binding it is for many folks.
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u/A_Furious_Mind 1d ago
I grew up in it too. Evangelical, complete with private Christian school. But, I was an inquisitive kid and reading off-curriculum stuff non-stop in my spare time. Somehow I was able to compartmentalize it all until about the age of 16-17. About then, I really started to notice not just the bad faith strategies the church and school used to contradict not just well-supported science, philosophy, and ethics, but the teachings of Jesus as well, all to push this aggressively fear-driven right-wing political fantasy.
I went through a bitter atheist phase and lost a lot of connections. But, since I was pretty much ostracized by my peers the whole time I was there (there were a lot of stuck-up assholes), it wasn't felt as a great loss. I went to college later, got an anthropology degree, and lightened up a bit after that. These days, I think Jesus is pretty cool as written and wish Christians would, like, actually read him and drop the politics of fear. But, like my dad always said, put a wish in one hand and a pile of shit in the other...
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u/nixvex 1d ago
I still find the academia of religion as it pertains to history, culture, and society quite interesting. I was on track to becoming an ordained pastor. Ironically it was seminary that solidified my choice to abandon religion altogether. I couldn’t stomach the idea of being a faithless clergy member and actively lying to people like it was a just a job. I’ve never been a fucking saint but I couldn’t live with myself doing that.
And Jesus is great until you get to the part about him coming back with a sword and slaughtering all who didn’t accept him. His love and forgiveness is just a limited time offer if you believe scripture is the unquestionable word of god.
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u/Lofifunkdialout 1d ago
I’m in my 40s now but did just that around the same time. It’s difficult to have your whole world view shown to be built on lies.
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u/eldred2 Oregon 1d ago
The sooner we figure out this isn't men vs women, but rather the rich and powerful using these divisive issues to pit us against each other, so we don't notice them picking our pockets and rigging our elections, the sooner we can get busy correcting the real issues.
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u/Weekly-Ad-7709 1d ago
We are where we are because the rubes who believe in talking snakes think women should have to have their reproductive medical choices approved by pastor Billy Bob and the boys at the Feed Store
America must systematically eradicate the evangelical rubeocracy
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u/growerdan 1d ago
Even if they aren’t religious they are bought and paid for just like most of congress.
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u/tbird83ii 1d ago
Right. America seems to have a hard-on for old Episcopalian Presidents who like to start wars, it would be reasonable to assume they want the same to decide their reproductive rights. (Only slightly /s... Because we have elected a ton of Episcopalian Presidents)
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u/aThiefStealingTime 1d ago
At this point what CAN we trust the Supreme Court to do? Excepting taking bribes and pushing religious fundamentalism on the general public of course.
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u/Doctor_YOOOU I voted 1d ago
I trust them to decide in favor of my favorite big corporations 🥰
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u/bluebastille Oregon 1d ago
This runaway, reactionary, illegitimate SCOTUS has become a mere arm of the Republican party.
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u/Selfless- 1d ago
And the Russian campaign of destabilizing America celebrates another success. It is amazing how cheap it all was.
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u/Engine6337 1d ago
And not one Russian boot was needed on our soil
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u/Frognuts777 I voted 1d ago
And not one Russian boot was needed on our soil
Well you do have to count Maria Butina who slept her way through the NRA and Republican party
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u/IPDDoE Florida 1d ago
And has outright said they are cool just policing themselves, implying that they care about the "separation of powers," but conveniently ignoring the "checks and balances" that support it.
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u/2burnt2name 1d ago
What's incredibly depressing is even the non republican justices also were all on board the "nobody should be policing me" train.
Of course it's a pipe dream, but if we ever have a dem presidency house and senate majority in a term, they need to make a second SCOTUS, ram through ethics requirements and checks that can't be lessened, nominate and place all new justices, and forcibly kick the clearly corrupt ones, and only allow any of the current non-illegitimate members to stay if they submit the new rules and an immediate and thorough ethics check.
Even more so than typical politicians, Republicans have proved that out of anybody, the Supreme Court that rules on the highest level of judicial matters have pretty much forfeited the right to any aspect of their life no being scrutinized for corruption.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 1d ago
If my work asked me if I needed strict, constant supervision, or I could be left to my own, I know what I'd answer.
But my day to day work doesn't impact hundreds of millions of people and the future of both democracy and the planet. If it did, I have to think I'd hold myself accountable and demand oversight.
I think these justices have forgotten that the seats they occupy don't belong to them, they belong to Us.
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u/thieh Canada 1d ago
most don’t trust Supreme Court to decide
reproductive healthcases
Better.
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u/Dont__Grumpy__Stop 1d ago
Right? You either trust the court or you don’t.
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u/crescendo83 1d ago edited 1d ago
If they’re compromised, they’re compromised. Every ruling is suspect and they have thrown away their legitimacy.
Edit: spelling…
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u/antidense 1d ago
I wonder if the economic loss due to the visibility of corruption, bribery and cronyism can be quantified in dollars. Imagine trying to make a case to countries teetering on democracy why they shouldn't just devolve into authoritarianism and the resulting loss of commerce and obstructions to free trade.
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u/Kurwasaki12 Kansas 1d ago
They don't care. It was never about the actual economy, just the avenues that give them power and suppress the elements of our society that could counter that power base. Facism isn't good for the economy, it's good for capital and capital knows it.
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u/jsimpson82 I voted 1d ago
I don't trust the Supreme court to decide on what to have for lunch.
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u/avenlanzer 1d ago
Which means there is no final check and balance to our system. It has failed. United States is no longer a system for the people if the people can't even trust the supreme court to make decisions.
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u/I_want_to_believe69 South Carolina 1d ago
Never was a system for “the people”. It was a system for who was considered “people” at the time. You know, white landowning Christian men and businesses.
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u/maxToTheJ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly. As far as I can tell the court and who the system of government serves hasnt changed only the notion of who “people” are has
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u/Mtbruning 1d ago
The funny part is that Republicans have been screaming about activist judges for 30 years. We must have misunderstood that to mean that they were against them.
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u/BackAlleySurgeon 1d ago
That was always just a dog whistle. Just like "states rights." "Activist judges" was a term used by segregationists that opposed rulings like Brown. To clarify, it's not entirely unfounded; the Warren Court did engage in substantial activism. It was just morally acceptable. Republicans like to focus on process over substance because there's no good argument for why their ideas are actually good for society.
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u/SteveTheZombie 1d ago
It's almost like we should just leave healthcare decisions up to doctors and patients...Not the court system.
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u/NocturnalSeizure 1d ago
If only I could them each in a room alone and hold their health care decision in my hand. Then ask each one personally: Whose decision should it be: Mine? or theirs?
Then let that choice be their vote.
Because THAT is The Choice.
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u/SpaceGirl420_ Montana 1d ago
They’re literally so stupid too. I remember reading about the trans bathroom bill (so fucking dumb btw) and they said “only people who produce eggs can enter women’s bathrooms.” Women don’t produce eggs. They are born with them. They don’t know shit about anything and they don’t give a fuck. It would be funny if it wasn’t so fucking awful.
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u/Heckbegone 1d ago
Well shit, I guess women who have had their ovaries removed gotta use the men's room!
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u/freakers 1d ago
They can't even handle art copyright with Andy Warhol correctly. There's no way they could handle women's healthcare right.
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u/AssassinAragorn Missouri 1d ago
This is worth a read. There's three critical wounds for Republicans here:
Over half of Republican women under 50 don't trust the Court with reproductive decisions.
Significantly more independents said Democrats represent their abortion views than those who said Republicans did.
Significantly more Democrats said they wouldn't vote for someone who didn't share their abortion views than Republicans who said the same.
Individually, any one of these would be bad news for the GOP. All three of these together is so bad that a Democrat won a Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin, by 10%, in an off election year (Apr this year).
Vote like we're 5% down, we can't take anything for granted. But we can feel encouraged and emboldened that we can do this and kick out the GOP. The higher the margins, the better.
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u/The_Scyther1 1d ago
They reversed reproductive laws that each one of them claimed was established law before being confirmed. Being a liar tends to degrade trust.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 1d ago
The Supreme Court has a serious legitimacy issue. I don't know the best path for fixing it, but key controversial figures resigning would go a long way.
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u/thieh Canada 1d ago
Nobody will resign willingly to protect the institution. They have to be forcibly removed.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 1d ago
Unfortunately, that is correct. But even so, we all need to call for them to resign.
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u/Steve_Lobsen 1d ago
We need 60 democratic senators that will vote for impeachment. Difficult, but not impossible.
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u/ertebolle 1d ago
Or Democrats simply have to keep control of either the WH or the Senate for long enough for Alito or Thomas to keel over and then gain control of both of them before the Republicans do. (odds of that are actually pretty decent if we win the WH in 2024 - we might lose the Senate but the 2026 map is more favorable, there are good opportunities in AK and ME and an outside shot at NC too, and 2028 has another AK seat and a WI rematch)
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u/Stranger-Sun 1d ago
Not respecting its rulings or enforcing them would go a long way to blowing it up, which it richly deserves.
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u/Melody-Prisca 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly, at this point I'm not sure there is a way to fix it before we address other issues in this country. Congress being deadlocked is a big part of what gives the Supreme Court so much power currently, as congress lacks the ability to write new laws or expanding on old laws when the court finds them ambiguous. This is part of what gives the new "Major Questions Doctrine" that the courts basically invented to fuck with Biden so much power.
Another issue, is we can't trust congress to appoint a moderate. I know Garland was an attempt at that, but McConnell's response to that basically was a signal to the Democrats to just pick the most liberal justice they can, as the right won't work with you regardless. And the right was already appointing the furthest right wing justices they could. If the other two branches could be trusted to appoint moderate justices then the court wouldn't be as big of a problem as it is now. Also, you could argue gerrymandering (the states are basically an example of gerrymandering), gives a minority too much power in congress and the executive branch, hence a bigger say on the court.
To fix the court would require addressing these issues, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Short term, I believe the court should probably just be disregarded. The only possible "fix" would be to stack the court, which the right has already done, and would certainly do again if the left did it.
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u/303uru 1d ago
First part ain't it and the supreme court proved it this week with the wetlands case. You can own the legislature, write good law and the SC can simply strike a word or come up with an entirely new definition for it and overrule you.
Blue states will just start ignoring the rulings, I expect CA to shortly. Blue states own the US economy and that's the level that is left to pull.
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u/Melody-Prisca 1d ago
I didn't go into full detail, but my first point does stand. Regardless why SCOTUS makes a ruling, unless they say something is unconstitutional, you can write a new law essentially overriding them. With a gridlocked congress you cannot. I agree the law was good, and SCOTUS struck it down anyways, so yes, what I said about being ambiguous didn't cover all cases, but this still falls under what I meant.
I do agree that Blue States own the economy, and I agree ignoring SCOTUS is best. The SCOTUS seems very shortsighted or ignorant if they think they will be able to be this brazen and corrupt and keep their power forever.
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u/feignapathy 1d ago
Several members, including one of the female justices, see women as nothing more than incubators; so it isn't surprising that the only ones who trust them have a similar view on women.
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u/Logistocrate 1d ago
It's not even their personal views, not a single one of them are medical practitioners, none of the abortion bans or trans health care laws that have been passed have been written by medical professionals either. It's fucking nuts. I wouldn't let someone with a Doctorate in engineering remove my gall bladder, why the fuck would I trust lawyers and politicians to craft medical laws??
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u/autotldr 🤖 Bot 1d ago
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)
Most respondents in a new poll said they don't trust the Supreme Court to decide cases related to reproductive and sexual health.
Only 37 percent of all adults said they trust the court "a lot" or "Somewhat" to make the right decision on reproductive and sexual health, according to the poll released Friday by KFF. The results come amid an ongoing lawsuit that seeks to undo federal approval of the common medication abortion pill mifepristone, and almost a year after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
The lack of confidence in the Supreme Court from women under 50 spanned political parties; 56 percent of Republican women in that age group and 81 percent of Democrats said that they trust the court "Not too much" or "Not at all" to make decisions about reproductive and sexual health.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: percent#1 abortion#2 Court#3 women#4 party#5
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u/CanaDoug420 1d ago
Half of them lied under oath to get their spots. I don’t trust them with anything.
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u/thebootsesrules 1d ago
Yes because the Supreme Court advising on reproductive health is like a Motocross rider advising on how to use Microsoft Excel.
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u/GrouchoManSavage 1d ago
Nobody in their right mind should trust a group of lawyers to make medical decisions. There isn't a single person on that bench who could give an introductory M1 lecture on reproductive physiology.
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u/forthewatch39 1d ago
I don’t trust them on a lot of things and I think we’re coming to a point where states will start defying certain rulings.
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u/Proud3GenAthst 1d ago
"John Marshall made his decision, now let him enforce it"
Andrew Jackson
Democrats should start defying Supreme Court. That would be awesome.
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u/Stillprotesting62 1d ago
No fucking ‘male’ should be making decisions for my body! Fuck this shit
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u/scubahood86 1d ago
And never stop protesting.
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u/Stillprotesting62 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m 65 now-been protesting and active for over 40 years!! I will never stop! Our little racist town is trying to get us all killed , but hey, I’d rather go out fighting - makes for a better memorial service ✌️🧡💙💚🩵💛♥️❤️💜🤎
Edit: living in Greene County, Ohio-still home to A lOT of small minded kkkfarmers and all around assholes/still I say, Fuck em’!
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u/Thousand_Eyes 1d ago
Older gen activists genuinely make me realize this shit isn't hopeless.
Thanks for making my day a little bit brighter
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u/Fatalchemist 1d ago
Don't worry. Plenty of women also want to take away your rights as well.
I mean, don't worry because their abortions will always be justified if they ever need one. But not yours, ever, under any circumstance.
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u/Funky_Farkleface 1d ago
I trust myself to make reproductive choices for myself. If I'm feeling bold or need assistance in the matter, I might involve a qualified and vetted medical professional.
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u/Antisocialbumblefuck 1d ago
Now I may be wrong here but isn't any form of doctoring by a judge... illegal? Practicing medicine without a license, or even the other sort?
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u/phoneguyfl 1d ago
I suspect most don't trust Supreme Court to decide *anything*, given that they are now owned and operated by the Republican party.
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u/ImmoKnight 1d ago
No politician or court should be making god damn medical decisions for someone else.
It's really that god damn simple.
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IAL and I don’t trust SCOTUS to decide anything right now.
Honestly, as far as I’m concerned, that entire Bench needs to be sacked, and their replacements need to first successfully obtain TS/SCI security clearances with Full-Scope Polygraphs. There is absolutely zero reason Americans should put up with such an incredibly and unambiguously corrupt (both figuratively and literally) judiciary, much less the Supreme freakin Court.
I also want a complete forensic audit on every SCOTUS decision in the last 50 years.
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u/cellocaster 1d ago
Love the spirit of your post. But. Aren’t polygraphs shit though?
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u/kerberos69 1d ago
Oh for sure, they’re 100% bullshit. But if the [~1.3M with TS/SCI and ~150k with FSP] government workers with those clearances are forced to do it, the 9 most powerful people in the country shouldn’t be excluded from that “privilege.”
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u/swinging-in-the-rain 1d ago
Oh, we trust they will lie and profit off taking away our human rights
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u/StrangeBedfellows I voted 1d ago
Why would we trust anyone who literally lied about it on the record?
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u/4skinFingerWarmers 1d ago
I don’t trust this Supreme Court around alcohol and woman at the same time.
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u/OldSpiceMelange 1d ago
Never forget the last three SC judges (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett) were shoehorned in at the behest of Mitch McConnell.
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u/AutoPRND21 1d ago
The final word on policy in our country comes from nine unelected wizards whose purpose is to divine what slaveholding men from the 1700s would have wanted for our current world.
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u/Schmooog 1d ago
Most people regardless of political affiliation don't trust the Supreme Court with anything. Whatever team you are batting for its obvious they are corrupt
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u/ohblessyerheart 1d ago
In general there are already too many layers between a doctor and a patient in the USA. It shouldn't be surprising the US Supreme Court isn't seen as an added value.
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u/thatgeekinit Colorado 1d ago
Imagine Sex Education as taught by Thomas & Alito, guest starring Kavanaugh
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u/spacewalk__ 1d ago
they should just send us ballots in the mail
it's our fucking lives, all of these assholes are too old to reproduce anyway
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u/jayhawksfan0965 1d ago
What if we just left these choices between a patient and medical professionals and left it at that? What a crazy idea.
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u/BuccaneerRex Kentucky 1d ago
The real question is why people think that what happens within someone's body is the business of the government at all.
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u/masterofn0n3 1d ago
I personally don't trust the Supreme Court to even decide rock paper scissors cases.
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u/KickBassColonyDrop 1d ago
Trusting an institution with a moral and ethical concept but which can be bought and traded with money is pretty much failure before the first word can be penned.
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u/Richfor3 1d ago
I wouldn't trust those terrorists to mediate an argument between my kids much less anything actually important regarding the law.
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u/engineereddiscontent 1d ago
I don't trust them for a whole lot more than reproductive health cases
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u/lesChaps Washington 1d ago
I trust them to primarily protect the elite and to reinforce existing power dynamics.
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u/thetwitchy1 1d ago
The fact is that the last time a conservative politician got the majority of votes in the us was in 2004, and even then it was 50.3% of the popular vote. Before that it was in 1988.
The SCOTUS does not represent the views of the people. It hasn’t for over a generation.
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u/maceandwhip 1d ago
It isn't only the Supreme Court but also the judge in Texas who blocked mifepristone.
It is enraging that people without a shred of medical training can make make legally binding decisions about healthcare that endanger lives.
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u/SweetActionsSa 1d ago
Women are literally dying because of the Roe v Wade decision. Blood is on their hands
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u/surfteacher1962 1d ago
I don't think it takes a brain surgeon to figure out that most Americans don't trust this Supreme Court. This is the worst Court since the Taney Court during Lincoln's presidency.
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u/steampunkworks 1d ago
Why should we hold any honor to the office when @ChiefJusticeRoberts has no backbone and the others are allowed to rule themselves without any honor at all. The Supreme Court lost its validity with Thomas. Lies, lies and lies..... Nope, no more.
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u/Newpocky 1d ago
What would happen if blue states just decide they’re not going to abide by any of the courts decisions?
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u/djackson404 1d ago
Right now I don't trust the Supreme Court to decide much of anything:
- Kavanaugh is a liar, rapist
- Barrett is a crazy-eyed religious fanatic and liar
- Thomas is corrupt
- The rest of the so-called 'conservatives' have just been waiting for their chance to enact their right-wing extremist agenda for the United States
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u/Negative-Appeal9892 1d ago
Why should they, considering it's a proven fact that the justices can be bought and paid for?
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u/JustYourAvgJester 1d ago
"most don’t trust Supreme Court"
It's simple, there is no Law. The chief architects of a coup are still free and openly planning another. Our justices get millions of dollars in donations from the organizations they rule for.
This isn't law. It's Oligarchy. The law is a tool of the rich against the poor. Nothing more, nothing less.
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