r/unitedkingdom • u/Ask_Me_About_Kevin Absolutely definitely Scotland • May 26 '23
Philip Schofield Megathread MEGATHREAD
Lot of stuff coming out about Philip Schofield and we've already had to remove an ungodly amount of duplicates. Let's stick them all in here and keep the place nice and tidy.
It's only posting them on the sub, BUT IT'S POSTING THEM ON THE SUB IN A CUBE.
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Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23
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u/stillfailingatlife Jun 05 '23
Holly Willoughby acting no better than Schofield now. They really do take people for cunts.
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u/groomingguru Jun 04 '23
Why did Philip Schofield continue his skincare routine after leaving "This Morning"?
Because he knows that flawless skin is the best revenge for leaving a daytime show!
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u/Popular-Recover8880 Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 04 '23
What exactly has been proven?
What I'm hearing is that he knew the victim very well from when he was the age of 10? Then on the other hand, the papers and Philip himself seem to corroborate that they followed one another on Twitter, didn't have much of the way in contact until he started working for ITV and was of a consenting age.
What's highly frustrating about this is that people supporting the former claim tend to swing a homophobic slant online, then those stating the latter are accused of being pedophile apologists.
Then there's most of the establishment pundits trying their best to paint him in the best possible light.
I'm personally of the opinion that if you groomed a kid then you probably wouldn't stop grooming other kids. Call that disingenuous, ill--informed, or just outrignt wrong a take, but I'm more than open to having my mind changed.
It's just extremely frustrating watching the trial by twitter jury disagreeing on muffled information at best.
Whether he's innocent or guilty, the pitch fork mob have been shameless online.
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u/FarGuide2581 Jun 03 '23
Ok, so i know the journalists the young man originally opened up to and wanted to do a tell all story to expose what had happened. This has been knowledge amongst most celebs and journalists for a long long time now. The young man didn’t discuss sexual conduct before he was legal, it was of the nature of the affair and how he was treated and the injustice of being gotten rid of following a spat with Phil. Even if it’s not technically groomjng, it’s 100% abuse of power, manipulation and very close to grooming. The young man may have initiated it for all we know but… He looked very young, and naive and keen to start his career at itv. Phil should have used his 41 years experience in tv and wisdom and declined he should have protected the young man and allowed him opportunity based on merit rather than someone younger than his own kids. Imagine it was any other person seeing a colleague even only 10 or 5 years younger with the power to make or break a career and then got you sacked… it’s not right, even with consent. The young man pulled the story and disappeared, wanted anonymity and hasn’t been harassed by the press, but has been offered to tell that story, I’m sure he has been made to feel guilty and the pressure of ruining Phil’s career. Phil cracked eventually from the pressure of online, Reddit tiktok and insta comments section people like myself have known for a very long time and are furious he’s hiding in plain sight. He could maintain a position of power and continue to earn enough to pay to protect himself. His recent interview was highly manipulative, bringing Caroline flack into it and subsequently her mother is as low as Phil will go. He’s not going to top himself, he’s distressed because the mask has slipped and who he really is has been revealed. This is an instance where the tabloids have shown to apply pressure expose truth where itv and the talent agencies work overtime to hide it. Phil should have stepped down a couple of years back, trying to get away with it and dragging everyone down with him is what has made this escalate. As for whether he is a pedophile or not, another unprintable truth is that his brother’s victim was his own son, Phil didn’t do anything to protect that young boy his teenage nephew. The teenage son was encouraged to masturbate at the same time as his dad, and he told Phil about it like Phil might understand. That’s all I know to be the truth. The only thing that should happen now, a probe into unfair dismissal and treatment from itv. And we wait for the other parties to tell their story, which will most likely conceal the whole truth. Phil seems to be quite good at getting sympathy - but noones standing by him because they know the truth - other than those he’s managed to manipulate - poor Caroline flacks mum.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 03 '23
Do you believe they had little contact prior to him working at This Morning and then within "a few months" of him working there Phil suddenly realises he's gay and acts on it with this particular runner?
It's supposedly been an 'open secret' for years that he was gay (and the video of Dame Edna making innuendos about Phil's sexuality on This Morning in 2011 implies that's true) so the narrative he's pushing that him realising he's gay coincided with his affair with this guy sounds like BS. Why refuse to answer when questioned if there were previous male partners before this?
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u/Popular-Recover8880 Jun 04 '23
I don't see how when he came out or when he struck an affair with a colleague, has any bearing on the "open secret". I'm sure it was an open secret.
And if he doesn't want to answer about other possible relationships with other partners then that's his decision.
No offence, but you are speculating hard here. "Supposedly" , "do I believe" , "why?" .
Personally, I don't perceive Schofield to be a bad person. I think he had an inappropriate relationship with a young intern.
On a separate but very relevant topic, did the world have this same energy against then 30 year old Glen Hansard when he met a 13 year old of whom he started dating once she was a consenting age? No. As a matter of fact, they won an Oscar for best song!
Now when it has been proven that Hansard did indeed do it vs. unproven against Schofield, how on earth does one exert pitchfork energy towards one and not towards the other?
Ask yourself honestly, why is the world going after Schofield and not Hansard? Why do you reckon that is? Sincere question.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 04 '23
I don't even know who Glen Hansard is, maybe that's why?
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u/Popular-Recover8880 Jun 04 '23
I didn't know who Schofield was before the allegations. Funny how media coverage works.
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u/mystique79 Jun 03 '23
Schofield seems to have the rare talent to make everything 10x worse with his statements.
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23
He struggled to quickly answer the BBC interviewer when asked what he was apologizing for, and came up with "kissing a colleague".
He knows damn fine it was worse than that, because no way would ITV sack him, or Holly stop speaking to him, over a conventional affair.
Weaponising suicide to evade further scrutiny is sick.
PS has enjoyed talking to extremely young men for a long time. Telling a different 17 year old their cock is gorgeous isn't exactly normal behavior for a man in his 60s. Nor would it be if he made similar comments about a 17 year old girl's genitals. Just legal or not, it's grim.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 03 '23
Prince Andrew got raked over the coals for shagging a 17yr old girl but apparently that behaviour is okay now because "well it's not illegal" and to suggest anything untoward in Phil's case is 'homophobic'.
A few weeks ago, if you told someone a 60yr old man you knew was messaging underage / barely legal teens online they'd have called them a wrong 'un.
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u/127peter Jun 02 '23
Could any of you perfect people posting here be happy have your whole life examined forensically. How many of you are having affairs at the moment ? Would be happy to expose every indiscretion in your life.
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u/DemWasSumBirds Jun 02 '23
I don't care about him havjng an affair, I care about him potentially grooming a 15 year old boy. Screw whether or not they slept together at that age, this reeks of grooming. If you can't get this and the woke mob are 100% sticking to the "homophobia" defence, not that you neccesarily are part of this, that's what I'd say to you. If this was a heterosexual relationship would we even doubt the allegations? Doubt the possibility? If he was a guy he'd already be seen as guilty by most people, rightfully so, yet Philip is getting a lot of leeway and privilege here many don't. Including the innocent.
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u/pdel123 Jun 03 '23
This is certainly a long winded way to justify potentially grooming a kid
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u/DemWasSumBirds Jun 03 '23
So again, where did I justify him grooming the kid? Unless you mean Phil is doing this in a long winded manner, in which case forgive my ignorance. It's been a long day with a lot of stupid people in it lol
Didn't mean to be a dick x
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u/Pleasant-Squirrel220 Jun 02 '23
He knew what he was getting into.
I think what irks me and most he was quite happy to tear in to guests.
Three jump to mind David Cameron (and the list), Jodie Marsh (accused of being sex addict), Kerry Katona. I'm sure their is many more he has stabbed in back.
Basically people in glasshouses don't throw stones.
The only innocent in this is MM so far. it may of been barely legal of which I'm not convinced.
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u/Constant-Ad1903 Jun 02 '23
I think it would only be a very small minority of people here that would have groomed a minor.
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u/Opposite-Guest-1770 Jun 02 '23
I doubt few people here are national celebrities who have made their empire on being presented to the public, and I also doubt many are having affairs with people 30+ years younger whom they may or may not have known since pre puberty
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u/Extension_Elephant45 Jun 02 '23
Come on bbc tell us about how he used to contact children on Snapchat It’s all out there and sourced
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Jun 03 '23
I’m a female and never had any in-depth conversations with him, but my friends and I used to send him snaps as a joke as 14/15yos and he would open them and would occasionally respond. We continued because normally celebrities on Snapchat don’t respond or open things sent to them, but he always would. I remember him posting a picture of himself naked (with his crotch covered with an emoji) on his Snapchat story, and making frequent sexual innuendos. It was funny at the time but has since struck me as weird that he was engaging with us when we were obviously children. It’s not surprising to me that he would engage with young boys on Snapchat.
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u/Popular-Recover8880 Jun 05 '23
Did you bother to screenshot these photos? Him sending himself naked to you seems like an insanely big deal and shouldn't be taken lightly.
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Jun 05 '23
He didn’t send himself naked to me, it was posted on his Snapchat story and he had emojis covering his crotch so nothing was shown. If he had sent him a personal photo of him naked I would absolutely be sharing that shit on here
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u/Extension_Elephant45 Jun 03 '23
Yeah it’s deeply odd. I mean all celebs get harassed on these sites but the fact he wanted to have further contact with children is utterly bizarre. He had a very full life wtf is he doing this for? It’s creepy as heck Really sorry it’s left you felling this way it’s not a normal way to behave and in no way your fault
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u/miss_flower_pots Jun 03 '23
Say what? Links?
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 03 '23
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u/miss_flower_pots Jun 03 '23
You legend
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 03 '23
He told a 17 year old his cock was gorgeous. Grim.
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u/miss_flower_pots Jun 03 '23
Wow. Which 17 year old?
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 03 '23
In the article. He started talking to the kid at 17. Hurl. It would be equally revolting if he was discussing a 17 year old girl's genitals..
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u/Maleficent-Support67 Jun 08 '23
Two consenting adults (17 is legal age) can do and say what they want about others genitals 🤦♂️
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 08 '23
As someone isn't legally an adult until they are 18, I would prefer it if adults 35 years older didn't take advantage of the young person's desire to progress in a certain industry.
It baffles me how many people are apologists for this behaviour. We all know that just because something is legal, it can still be morally wrong.
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u/T3hking Jun 03 '23
Even worse, he sent a pic of his cucumber to the boy to which the boy responded, ‘Gorgeous’
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u/sanddancer08 Jun 02 '23
So Schofe states in the BBC interview that there is no injunction nor NDA. if that's the case, why is "his friend's" face pixelated and his name never mentioned in ANY media post, including this very BBC interview. I don't believe for a moment that there's no gagging order.
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u/KatySaid Jun 02 '23
If there is a sexual assault charge, the young man in question would be considered a victim and his identity by law must be protected from publication in the media. He is also not himself a public figure, and under human rights laws has a right to privacy.
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u/RustyTeal Jun 02 '23
In the bbc interview I noticed PS called the young man ‘vulnerable’ so he knows full well that he shouldn’t be in a relationship with a vulnerable 20 year old when he’s in a position of power over him. He also claimed the unmentioned youngster got a job on This Morning via his own merits! Ha! This kid you happen to be DMing ‘careers advice’ to just happened to be the one in a million to be chosen to work not only on tv, not only on the same channel but the same program..?? C’mon now.
The opening was cringeworthy to watch and the woe is me attitude pished me off. I’m pretty certain what he did amounts to grooming but we’ll see what’s discovered in the coming weeks.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 03 '23
I wonder if his mate Simon Schofield's career is a result of merit too?
And maybe questions should be asked about how Andi Peters got the Broom Cupboard job at 18 after he said he contacted Phil as a teenager asking how to be a children's TV presenter?
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u/RustyTeal Jun 04 '23
I’d eat my hat if this wasn’t a one off. I never really watched any Schofield but I watched the interviews and the manipulation tactics he pulls are so clear. “Do you want me to die?”. It’s all a ruse like the rest of his life has been. Pulling the homophobia card left a nasty taste in my mouth and claiming nobody cares about dicaprio and his age gap is ridiculous completely untrue. There are thousands of memes, jokes and a tonne of outrage toward Dicaprio there too. These days we’re realising that people in positions of power can abuse that especially with young vulnerable people and that the human brain isn’t generally fully developed until age 25, older if the person has come from an abusive background. The big problem with PS is the interaction between him and the young man in question and how young he was when they first met. Nobody could care less that schofield is gay - sounds like everyone including viewers knew anyway and still enjoyed watching him. This is a question of possible child abuse and the concerns of another Jimmy Saville especially considering he didn’t report his brother when he had knowledge of crimes against children. The reports of bullying also make for a worrying picture of a man who enjoys having control over others.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 04 '23
That interview was like some Clockwork Orange-esque brainwashing where Phil is telling you what he wants under the guise it's what the lad wants. "He just wants it to all go away". Yeah, I bet you do.
Also, I've seen inferences on social media about his brother's victim which just makes the saga even more disgusting. Think statistics.
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u/Quick-Low-3846 Jun 02 '23
Wait! What? He was vaping during the interview? Yuck. Gone right off him now.
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Jun 03 '23
How do you know he’s not quitting smoking? That’s the least bad thing he’s done at the moment, I’m surprised that upset you more than him grooming a kid.
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u/lapetitetortuemarine Jun 07 '23
Inside though … during an interview. Rude tbh and illegal in a pubic building.
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u/Aggravating-Tower317 Jun 02 '23
old creepy man in a relationship with a 20 year old? i know its disgusting, but its not illegal is it? why the all this outrage?
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u/FarGuide2581 Jun 03 '23
Very different if a 60 year old chats up an 18 year old they’ve known since they were 12 in a Wetherspoons… he’d get rejected. To… a person in a position of high power to launch the young persons career then getting them sacked once done with them. Maybe you’ve never experienced a ‘creepy’ older man cracking onto you and being in a tricky predicament that stops the word ‘no’.
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Jun 02 '23
Because he groomed him from the age of 15, keep up
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u/Aggravating-Tower317 Jun 02 '23
i know he followed him on twitter when he was 15 but is there any actual evidence that he groomed him?
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u/Webbie-Vanderquack Jun 02 '23
Schofield was a patron of the 2Faced Theatre company, which the young man in question joined at the age of 10. They likely knew each other before Schofield followed him on twitter.
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u/No_Angle2760 Jun 02 '23
Phillip is a classic narcissist. Everything he does is calculated
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u/Extension_Elephant45 Jun 03 '23
He’s absolutely relieved this this the story that’s come out. The others are far worse.
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u/SafetyCarCrash Jun 02 '23
"If its an abuse of power, its not in my nature to be that person, but of course it could be perceived as that. But that wasn't how it felt at the time."
I'm sure the vast majority of abusers feel this way when 1st accused - it wasn't how it felt at the time. Narcissists tend not to think they've done anything wrong.
Additionally this younger man is still under PS's control while he pays his legal fees. PS is dropping that into his interviews like he's being kind in reality the young man isn't likely to tell his side of things and upset the man who is providing his protection from the press atm.
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u/Beat-Live Jun 04 '23
Exactly. Paying his legal fees is just a way to control him.
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u/Gardenofjoy1983 Jun 14 '23
And now itv claim they are funding Phil's therapy, getting a bit messy now isn't it?
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u/sehshet Jun 02 '23
Maybe because I'd read the allegations on here 2 years ago, I haven't felt quite the level of anger, disgust etc as others have in recent weeks. However, hearing him compare himself to Caroline Flack suggests a twisted "understanding" of the situation, despite claiming otherwise. Caroline Flack was the victim of false accusations leading to horrific trolling, whereas he has finally ADMITTED wrongdoing, lying etc. That single sentence confirms to me that he is a manipulative narcissist and most of the other allegations are probably true.
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u/Gardenofjoy1983 Jun 05 '23
As far as I know she was actually guilty of assault, and she knew it may ruin her career if she was charged.She was clearly struggling with mental health issues and I don't think her partner who she assaulted wanted her charged but police wanted to pursue anyway.
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u/Uncle_peter21 Jun 02 '23
Appalling filthy manipulative tactics, he is part of the reason Flack died.
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom Jun 02 '23
I am sorry but I don't believe him.
I believe Eamonn Holmes. I don't like Eamonn but I trust his word more than a proven liar.
Schofield trying to cover for ITV and ITV trying to cover for Schofield. Saying he paying for young lads lawyers. Sounds dodgy to me.
Piers Morgan saying leave off him. Oh do STFU Piers. It cause his dire Talk news hardly reported it and he did not get an exclusive interview. He is a joke as a news caster.
PS saying he Caroline Flack. What on earth.
Be Kind yet slags off Dr Ranj and all those who say ITV is toxic.
Man I hope ITV goes down for this.
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Jun 02 '23
The same ITV who happily aired the toxic Jeremy Kyle show for years and who pass off post show Love Island suicides as the cost of business? That ITV?
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom Jun 02 '23
Absolutely
ITV is covering this up.
It all the same.
PS defending them cause he probably getting a good payout for leaving and also will have it on contract to cover ITV arse.
They knew. The "investigation" sounds dodgy as hell.
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 03 '23
It's like the media and everyone around PS knows exactly what he is but they're all keeping quiet to save face. Phil being treated as a leper and basically being told to fuck off, you're retired now isn't a result of having a workplace affair. Why is Holly "not allowed" to respond to him?
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u/hellasweetnutella Jun 02 '23
So, Philip met a 15yr old high school student fanboy like he's done many of times and decided to follow him. This boy out of the hundreds of kids he met over his career, he decided to help get into the industry. Why him? I'm guessing he felt that attraction the first time he met the boy and that's why he kept him around.
Calling the outrage "homophobic" in origin is such a reach. Phil, if the runner was a 20 year old girl you met when she was 15, it would not be a 'wink wink nudge nudge" situation. People would be just as appalled.
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u/Webbie-Vanderquack Jun 02 '23
He followed the kid's Twitter when he was 15, but they likely met sooner, since Schofield was a patron of the 2Faced Theatre company, which the kid joined at the age of 10.
(I'm calling the the kid to avoid using his name).
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u/JDNM Jun 02 '23
Yep, the 'homophobia' shout was pathetic. It's not the sex of the person involved, it's the inappropriate behaviour and abuse of power.
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u/thisandthatpost Jun 02 '23
Any got a link to stream this outside of the UK? BBC iplayer is UK only
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u/Ok_Object_8830 Jun 03 '23
It’s on YouTube
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u/thisandthatpost Jun 04 '23
I can find clips but not the full bbc interview
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u/No-Plenty-533 Jun 02 '23
He completely innocently gave advice to the teenager and then young man, agreed he could come to the studio for work experience and then helped him to get a job. All perfectly innocent and ordinary.
The studio must’ve been fucking heaving if he was doing that for everyone on Twitter that asked him.
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u/miyako_1984 Jun 02 '23 edited Jun 02 '23
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65775251
Seems a bit a reach to say people are reacting out of homophobia.
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u/Then-Mango-8795 Jun 02 '23
Blame everyone else. Don't think anyone gives a fuck that he's gay, I certainly don't. Easy to cast everyone else as the bad guy though.
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u/i-am-dan Jun 02 '23
Today I feel like Caroline Flack.
The cringe is unbearable.
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u/Mirageonthewall Jun 02 '23
The manipulation is the most blatant I’ve seen in a while, I heard rage in his voice when he did his speech about people wanting him to die. He’s really trying to pretend he doesn’t understand what abuse of power is and trying to pretend the information out there is malicious gossip when just looking at the facts, it’s still disgusting and an abuse of power at best.
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u/The1Floyd Jun 02 '23
Star Wars-esque droids presenting the news and morning television is long overdue.
You could feed a machine their lines, throw in a few obvious dick jokes and have them laugh a bit. Jobs a good-un.
No egos.
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u/chuckfinleyis4ever Jun 02 '23
so it turns out that the schofield family are a bunch of nonces. hurt people, hurt people i guess.
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u/_Sun_King_ Jun 01 '23
Gordon the Gopher. The Broom Cupboard. Andy Peters. There's a lot to unpack. So many childhood memories at risk.
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u/CaliDreamin1991 Jun 01 '23
So tired of these non-stories.
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u/Uncle_peter21 Jun 02 '23
BBC and now ITV - two of the biggest UK media conglomerates - harbouring paedophiles is hardly a non-story. What a weird take.
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u/CaliDreamin1991 Jun 03 '23
I guess my apathy has reached saturation point. Also “pedo” with PS is debatable.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jun 01 '23
So PS met the young runner when he was 11 and has said nothing illegal happened? I doubt very much he waited all those years. What's the age of consent in the UK - 16?
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u/QuintoBlanco Jun 02 '23
From the latest BBC article:
"Schofield confirmed he first met the man - then a 15-year-old boy - when he was invited to appear as part of an event at a drama school many years ago."
"His colleague was 20 years old when he first had any kind of sexual contact with him"
The age of consent in England and Wales is 16.
He stayed in touch (through social media) with the boy after he first met him and there was a massive imbalance of power, and of course their was a massive gap in life experience, so Phillip Schofield did plenty wrong.
But let's not start making things up. Unless you have an actual source, your doubt is meaningless.
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u/wannitgedditgoddit Jun 02 '23
At that point in time, was the age of consent for homosexual sex not 18? It was fairly recently it got changed to 16 to match heterosexual sex I think??
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u/QuintoBlanco Jun 02 '23
No, if the information is correct, Schofield had a sexual encounter with somebody who was 20 at a time when the sage of consent for homosexual consent was 16.
The age of consent was lowered in 2000.
There are plenty of problems with what Schofield did, and he might be lying about some things, but based on the facts that are currently in the open, what he did was not illegal and the accusation of grooming seems to be a stretch.
(I exclude him not reporting his brother to the police, that might have been a crime, and in my opinion should be a crime.)
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u/Danmoz81 Jun 03 '23
His brother insists he just watched porn with a lad "over 16" and that it was "consensual". That was his defense. Why are we to believe Phil but not Tim?
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u/QuintoBlanco Jun 03 '23
One of them is convicted of a crime.
But I do not 'believe' Phil. Just as I don't believe everything I read online.
As it turns out, the people, saying Phil Schofield met the boy when the boy was 10 or 11, just made that up, they have no evidence whatsoever.
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Jun 01 '23
Where have you heard he was 11? I’ve read posters on here say 10, 11, 12 and 15. Which fucking one is it or is everyone just making shit up?
No need to guess his age, just say he was a child.
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u/QuintoBlanco Jun 02 '23
According to the latest article from a reliable source the boy was 15 when they first met and the sexual encounters started when he was 20.
There is plenty to be concerned about and Schofield has admitted that what he did was wrong, but if the information (from the BBC) is correct, Schofield did not groom and pounce when his victim became 'legal'. The age of consent in England and Wales is 16.
People are mainly harsh on Philip Schofield because he did not report his brother to the police. His brother was found guilty of sexual offences against a teenage boy and Philip knew before his brother was arrested.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jun 02 '23
There's a pic of Schofield out to dinner with the boy that's doing the rounds and he looks about 10/11. I suppose he could have been a very small 15 year old?
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u/QuintoBlanco Jun 02 '23
What am I supposed to say about a picture that is going around of Schofield having dinner with a boy?
Without context I have no idea if the picture is relevant or not.
If the 10 or 11 years comes from dodgy videos/photos and people guessing somebody's identity and age, that's not exactly the same thing as a fact.
I'm definitely suspicious of Schofield because of his failure to report his brother and I believe what he definitely did do was wrong, but people just making stuff up is not alright.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jun 02 '23
He initially met him at his theatre group when he was 10/11. There's a group photo of them together. Does it matter - 11 or 15? Meeting him at 11 and "mentoring" him until he was old enough to shag might have been legal, but highly unethical and extremely predatory. "Mentoring" him from the age of 15, I suppose it could be argued that it's less predatory. Still pretty warped though.
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Jun 02 '23
10/11? 10 or 11? It can only be one. How hard is it? Unless you’re guessing because you weren’t actually there. Maybe stop guessing if you don’t know, eh? And just say young child. Sure he groomed him, but I’m sick and tired of hearing five different ages from nobody’s on the fucking internet.
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u/SubstantialTreat9528 May 31 '23
A friends auntie worked at ITV back in 2006/2007 I remember her telling us it was widely known that PS was caught in bed with Simon Cowell
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 03 '23
While interesting, it's not PS being gay that anyone gives a shit about. Who cares how long he's been shagging men for?
It's the grooming kids and shagging people he has coercive control over that's the issue.
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u/Salome_Maloney Jun 01 '23
Must have been a reinforced bed to support the weight of both their massive egos.
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u/Alarmed_Material_481 Jun 01 '23
So much grossness. How do they kiss, they haven't a lip between them!
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom May 31 '23
It is astonishing that many on social media are having a go at Eamonn. Yes he has an axe to grind but to give PS benefit of the doubt to deligitimise Eamonn is really something else.
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u/bodhisattva83 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23
Love how Eamonn Holmes and Dan Wootton are full on grinding their axes against HW, PS & ITV. Personal agendas much !
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u/Pleasant-Squirrel220 Jun 01 '23
So when Eamonn Holmes was on the show did he just ignore.
If that’s the case he has just as much guilt.
He can’t have his cake and eat it either no one know and all guilty or everyone knew including him
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u/127peter Jun 02 '23
He’s turned out to be a real cunt since he lost his job
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u/Pleasant-Squirrel220 Jun 02 '23
yup Eamonn Holmes it feels like sour grapes. I guess he was told you will never work on ITV when he was shown the door.
GB News where presenters go to spend time before retirement (with sub 100 viewers)
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 01 '23
Any personal agendas are irrelevant if what they are saying is true. Grooming is horrific, irrespective of the motives of the whistleblower.
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u/RollRollR0ll May 31 '23
I heard the rumour of him having a fling with a young runner from the show and that it was about to be exposed in the press back when he came out of the closet, whenever that was. And I don’t have anything at all to do with the industry. Theres no way the vast majority of people involved in the program didn’t know about it!
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u/Ivashkin May 31 '23
There have been detailed posts up on a variety of forums of ill repute which have detailed most of these allegations for years. It was essentially common knowledge that there was a cover-up. Literally everyone who has worked with him for the past few years would have known everything.
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom May 31 '23
Dan Wootton loving stirring the pot.
This is why GB News is successful. It just tv trash and they know it.
Other news channels bias and boring. Only BBC is news channel I "respect" but that would only be for major events like Coronation etc.
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May 31 '23
Watching all these C-List celebs fight it out over a grooming case is quite disappointing.
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u/CarOnMyFuckingFence May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23
Phil's female arch nemesis spilling the beans later 👀
To be honest I can't blame Phil here
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u/billyd94 May 31 '23
Phil was actually a cunt though because back in the day when Kerry was still very young and struggling to get sober, Phillip called her out on live tv which he didn’t have to do. He could’ve done it during a break. I get it, Kerry isn’t popular and is looked at as a ‘chav’ which most people in this sub hate, but she was a young mother with an abusive husband having a hard time and he pulled a prick move.
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u/wardrobe8989 Jun 01 '23
She wasn’t that young she was in her late twenties, but she was on medication which made her slur her words so she wasn’t even drunk or on drugs
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Jun 01 '23
And she wasn't even using substances at the time. She was on mood stabilisers for a mood disorder. If you've ever witnessed somebody on Lithium, you'll know what it looks like. People on very high doses, especially, are literally like walking zombies. It's a very sad sight to see. Even low dosages have the side effects that she displayed in that interview.
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 02 '23
Exactly. If they thought she was on something else, they shouldn't have interviewed her. It's called a duty of care. They were awful to her when she had a perfectly reasonable explanation.
When she was on drugs she was ripped to shreds, when she was clean and trying to address her mental illness by taking her meds, she still gets ripped to shreds.
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u/DSQ Edinburgh~!! May 31 '23
I’d totally forgotten about that Kerry Katona interview! Yikes. I’m not sure Scofield can be totally blamed for asking questions then tbh.
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u/_Ok_kO_ May 31 '23
I have a feeling the b in broom cupboard was really just an upside down g.
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 01 '23 edited Jun 01 '23
With the age differences between PS and Andi Peters, does no one wonder how totally inexperienced AP got his job on CBBC at the age of 18? After writing to PS asking how to get into TV?
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u/bodhisattva83 May 31 '23
Prince Andrew. £12M. Member of the royal fam. Different set of rules.
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u/Netionic May 31 '23
Not really. Prince Andrew has effectively lost his job as a working royal also.
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u/bodhisattva83 May 31 '23
Fair point. I suggest because of the esteem the royals have, Andrew isn’t subjected to the same kind of scrutiny that mere mortals are. I couldn’t see Lucy Frazer agreeing to select committee scrutiny of Andrew’s conduct.
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u/CarOnMyFuckingFence May 31 '23
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65769939
Externally led review so there's a chance it may not be a complete whitewash
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u/Extension_Elephant45 May 31 '23
There’s more to come. It’s going to be quite upsetting for those who care and rather annoying for those who think this behaviour is ok and think those who are against grooming can be labelled away as far right.
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u/No_Violinist_4557 Jun 02 '23
I would speculate that something happened when the boy was underage. If a 50 year old man has such poor control that he can't stop himself from sleeping with a 16 year old boy, I don't see him being able to say no when the boy's 14, 15. He's been proven to be a manipulative, predatory, immoral liar, it would be contradictory of him to insist on waiting till the boy/victim was legal. These fuckers don't work like that.
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u/Cymru321 May 31 '23
Has anyone suggested that it’s far right to care about grooming? I’ve heard people make the point that most abuse isn’t carried out by gangs of Pakistani men. Not sure how this case detract from that argument.
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u/Pretty-Sympathy5463 May 31 '23
Well, the UK is over 80% white. So it’s not particularly shocking that, as the BBC said last month, ‘a previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white’. Although that does kind of indicate that perhaps white people are under-represented in such offending compared to some other groups, but let’s ignore that as it’s not particularly revealing to the thread.
Aside from that, I feel like a lot of discourse which has led to anti-grooming being associated with the right is quite American, eg all the ‘drag queen story hour’ stuff.
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u/Ukipandyourdisgrace Liverpool May 31 '23
How bad does your life have to get, to care about Philip Schofield ?
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 01 '23
How good does your life have to be to not care about child grooming?
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u/Ukipandyourdisgrace Liverpool Jun 01 '23
Gordon the Gopher was over legal age.
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u/MoxieHasKnottyBits Jun 01 '23
If only the fella who operated Gordon also cared about ages. He was mates with PS and their actions at the BBC were well known.
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u/Mr_XcX United Kingdom May 31 '23
I used to love Schofield years ago with Fern then Holly.
After Queue gate I went right off of him and now I feel lied to.
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u/mr_helmsley Jun 14 '23
Just watching it's a sin, and at around 18 minutes into episode 3, a massive schofield reference gets dropped..
‘I’ll tell you who else, Phillip Schofield,’ Ritchie’s partner said.
‘Ooh, if only!’ Ritchie yearned.
His boyfriend then quipped: ‘I had a friend who worked on Broom Cupboard, said he’s at it like Billy-O.’
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